prakashv44
09-21 02:51 PM
I am with you
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mirage
02-03 01:32 PM
You first thought of calling me jerk privately, than changed your mind...Anyway, waiting in this country for 10 years without Green Card, I am certainly a jerk, atleast that's how I felt when I saw the Fijian guy who landed here in 2007 got his Green Card, you are right for that point. First point of your's that I didn't understand was 'I may annoy people'. I acknowledged that in my first post itself. If being ROW I was to get my Green Card in 1 year, I will certainly be unhappy if someone try to make it 2 years...secondly you need to tell me how this effort is going to hurt the entire effort, I am looking for 15-20 volunteers who can work with me on this. Since this is also on IV's agenda so, it is certainly not against IV's goals, But I will try to work only on 1 goal. I am not stopping IV to continue with it's efforts. The whole point is, as we have seen in all the debates, lawmakers see Visa recapturing as new visas. Go around and read some stuff, America is more anti immigrant today than it was ever, in this scenario, getting a bill passed with recapturing Visas etc. sounds impossible to me(I hope I am wrong), but taking of country quota or increasing country limits may be to 15% will bring lot of relief to the hugely baclogged countries...Moreover as I mentioned when a strong lawmaker like Zoe Logfren supports such thing, I'm sure she'll be ready to bring something for it....again don't tell me it is not possible. I know it is impossible, but atleast I'll give it a shot...
I did want to PM you, but thought of posting it on the open forum. So here is what I have to say.
You are a total jerk because you do not understand, and you do not want to understand that your actions could annoy people and harm the effort. There is a time for everything. Just because we are all feeling the fear of the shrinking economy, doesn't mean that we have to do something, which may even harm the entire effort. Waiting for the right moment is better than doing wrong things at the wrong time and failing.
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I did want to PM you, but thought of posting it on the open forum. So here is what I have to say.
You are a total jerk because you do not understand, and you do not want to understand that your actions could annoy people and harm the effort. There is a time for everything. Just because we are all feeling the fear of the shrinking economy, doesn't mean that we have to do something, which may even harm the entire effort. Waiting for the right moment is better than doing wrong things at the wrong time and failing.
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sledge_hammer
10-20 10:01 AM
Thanks gclabor07!
Highly Skilled workers:
Ensure high skilled workers trained and educated in the United States have the opportunity to stay and work in the United States upon graduation.
Reform caps for H-1B visa program to rise and fall in response to market conditions. Reduce bureaucracy and waiting times for workers to arrive in the United States.
Increase available green card numbers to reflect employer and employee demand.
Extend the ability for H-1B visa holders to renew their H-1B status while waiting for their green card number to become available.
Ensure available and qualified American workers are given adequate and fair opportunities to apply for available positions.
The rest of you guys; tell me this is not good for the EB community!!! Immigrants blindly think that Democrats are somehow the only party that will solve every problem of theirs w/o even looking at their agenda.
It is a no-brainer, McCain has a plan that will benefit us. I know we have no voting powers, but our support (in anyway legally possible) should be for McCain. Period!
Highly Skilled workers:
Ensure high skilled workers trained and educated in the United States have the opportunity to stay and work in the United States upon graduation.
Reform caps for H-1B visa program to rise and fall in response to market conditions. Reduce bureaucracy and waiting times for workers to arrive in the United States.
Increase available green card numbers to reflect employer and employee demand.
Extend the ability for H-1B visa holders to renew their H-1B status while waiting for their green card number to become available.
Ensure available and qualified American workers are given adequate and fair opportunities to apply for available positions.
The rest of you guys; tell me this is not good for the EB community!!! Immigrants blindly think that Democrats are somehow the only party that will solve every problem of theirs w/o even looking at their agenda.
It is a no-brainer, McCain has a plan that will benefit us. I know we have no voting powers, but our support (in anyway legally possible) should be for McCain. Period!
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desi3933
03-10 02:55 PM
From July-07 fiasco DOS and USICS work very closely on VB, I am referring to USCI and DOS. And USCIS is the one who influence DOS decision.
Let me ask you again, there are two "they". Same or Different?
Here is your statement again
>> Once they reached last quarter then they will make EB2-I/C current and distribute those spill-over visas across EB.
Remember, this is a trap question.
Let me ask you again, there are two "they". Same or Different?
Here is your statement again
>> Once they reached last quarter then they will make EB2-I/C current and distribute those spill-over visas across EB.
Remember, this is a trap question.
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reddymjm
10-15 01:58 PM
I will mail it today or tomorrow.
kumarc123
03-12 10:41 AM
To all those who are screaming and shouting about "IV collecting Donations and doing nothing", I am not a donor myself, but we have to understand that IV IS THE ONLY platform we (EB community) have. However shaky or small the platform is. It takes a different kind of person to doggedly keep at something as insipid and difficult and immigration relief for EB and to put up with all the brickbats that armchair immigration proponents and to be beneficiaries like us throw at the IV core.
Pappu, I have put forth this idea many times, and will do so again, let IV be a members only forum, with a REASONABLE annual subscrition amount (say equal to themonthly cost of a decent cable/satellite subscription:-)..
This will achieve the following:
(1) Assured, stable fund collection for IV activities
(2) Only genuine IV supporters will sign up.
(3) To some extent, may be, will keep antis away (this is not assured, but may happen)
...Its Friday, so pickup a 6-pack, 12 pack or whatever pack on your way home, and relax...
Are you really for real?
When a company goes down who is the person to be qetioned? CEO
I believe PapPu here is the main person leading?
And are you serious about contributions? What has IV achieved lately?
1 I called numerous senators
2. I send letter to white house
3. Sent faxes
What was the result? Same old bull
I agree with you on IV being the only organization, but what goos is the organization when it failed principles and objectives?
IV needs to declare their
1. Donations
2. When are they meeting USCIS, I would like to contribute to those meetings.
3. Where are all the rally's?
IV Needs to revaluate its objectives, closed door bull wont work.
Pappu, I have put forth this idea many times, and will do so again, let IV be a members only forum, with a REASONABLE annual subscrition amount (say equal to themonthly cost of a decent cable/satellite subscription:-)..
This will achieve the following:
(1) Assured, stable fund collection for IV activities
(2) Only genuine IV supporters will sign up.
(3) To some extent, may be, will keep antis away (this is not assured, but may happen)
...Its Friday, so pickup a 6-pack, 12 pack or whatever pack on your way home, and relax...
Are you really for real?
When a company goes down who is the person to be qetioned? CEO
I believe PapPu here is the main person leading?
And are you serious about contributions? What has IV achieved lately?
1 I called numerous senators
2. I send letter to white house
3. Sent faxes
What was the result? Same old bull
I agree with you on IV being the only organization, but what goos is the organization when it failed principles and objectives?
IV needs to declare their
1. Donations
2. When are they meeting USCIS, I would like to contribute to those meetings.
3. Where are all the rally's?
IV Needs to revaluate its objectives, closed door bull wont work.
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abcdefgh
01-17 08:17 AM
Pappu:
Can we post link to this thread some where on every page so that who ever visits IV sees this thread right away? May be in different color or in some way so that it stands out. It looks like this thread is lost among all other threads.
Can we post link to this thread some where on every page so that who ever visits IV sees this thread right away? May be in different color or in some way so that it stands out. It looks like this thread is lost among all other threads.
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willgetgc2005
02-16 11:40 AM
Retrohatao,
Yes. You are right. We got to keep hammering. It is a national security Issue to let people roam for years freely. Such a security fallacy, will prop up any Senators ears.
Ofcourse, we tend to miss such genuine opportunities to raise relevant Issues....
Any idea, how we can make this an agenda and get it to the IV volunteers and office bearers ?
Yes. You are right. We got to keep hammering. It is a national security Issue to let people roam for years freely. Such a security fallacy, will prop up any Senators ears.
Ofcourse, we tend to miss such genuine opportunities to raise relevant Issues....
Any idea, how we can make this an agenda and get it to the IV volunteers and office bearers ?
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DarkChild
02-15 08:17 AM
same here, if i see an example i might jump in, at the moment i have no idea how to start
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chetanjumani
03-13 12:10 PM
Thank You Googler, EB2 India in April is Dec 2003. Hopefully the logic to arrive at this is what you got to know from your Call with DHS employee.
Hopefully all EB immigrants would be treated equally irrespective of their place of birth.
Hopefully all EB immigrants would be treated equally irrespective of their place of birth.
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redgreen
08-10 08:38 PM
So according to this interpretation EB1 also will be retrogressed till everybody from previous years gets gc !
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tikka
08-05 08:33 PM
Please join us for a tri state lunch meet. We would like to start working on volunteers/ mobilizing members for the DC rally. Even if you cannot take the day off and come to DC please come by for the lunch. We could really use help with banners/posters/ and ideas to make this a success.
WHEN: Saturday AUGUST 11th
LOCATION- 148 E 48TH St, New York, NY 10017 (between Lexington and Third Avenues.)
TIME: 12:00pm
ALSO- PLEASE DO UPDATE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION
Thank you!
WHEN: Saturday AUGUST 11th
LOCATION- 148 E 48TH St, New York, NY 10017 (between Lexington and Third Avenues.)
TIME: 12:00pm
ALSO- PLEASE DO UPDATE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION
Thank you!
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jcmenon
07-25 01:22 PM
"Dude/Dudette, I give up. The alien's eligibility and admissibility is decided at I-485 stage - FBI name checks, medical tests ring a bell? The law explicitly states that visa number availabililty is a pre-requisite for the adjustment of status application in 245(a)(3). If you can't understand - or choose to refuse to understand - plain English, have fun arguing with yourself".
Dude I apologize if my line of argument is irritating you so much. btw 245(a)(3) is not plain english its legalese. And I'm not the one arguing with myself there are others in this thread who read the law along the same lines. Anyway this forum is for debate and thats what we are doing.
Probably this option is not attractive to you that you are so pissed with it.
Btw I'm contacting some attorneys on my personal expense to interpret this.
If they reach the same conclusion as you I'll be happy to accept it, i have no issues and I'll post it on this thread.
But the fact is at this point I still believe there may just be a 1% chance.
Thanks a lot, please keep us posted about the outcome, even if we have one percent of hope, there is no harm trying that.
Dude I apologize if my line of argument is irritating you so much. btw 245(a)(3) is not plain english its legalese. And I'm not the one arguing with myself there are others in this thread who read the law along the same lines. Anyway this forum is for debate and thats what we are doing.
Probably this option is not attractive to you that you are so pissed with it.
Btw I'm contacting some attorneys on my personal expense to interpret this.
If they reach the same conclusion as you I'll be happy to accept it, i have no issues and I'll post it on this thread.
But the fact is at this point I still believe there may just be a 1% chance.
Thanks a lot, please keep us posted about the outcome, even if we have one percent of hope, there is no harm trying that.
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diptam
08-15 04:25 PM
Some of the recent GC and EAD achievers takes up a job at USCIS... How does this sound - Huh ??
I think we will GC sooner than anticipated. I think those who filed in July/Aug will get in three/four years. Just a rough estimate. Any one agrees with me?
I think we will GC sooner than anticipated. I think those who filed in July/Aug will get in three/four years. Just a rough estimate. Any one agrees with me?
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webr
09-01 09:09 AM
I am NOT from Aspen.
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abhathakur
03-08 11:30 PM
The last time I managed to ping an admin assistant level person at the Records and Information Dissemination Section at FBI that is responsible for NNCP, she said the analysts were looking at the 2002/2003 files and this was when I called in November 2005 (No amount of cajoling or pleading or trickery would make her say a word beyond that, very intimidating the female!!!). I am not sure if the 2002/2003 was a reference to the receipt date or the priority date, my guess is it must have been the receipt date of the I-485 application.
Considering the receipt date of my application is in Nov., 2004...it is going to be a wait and the India EB-2 Visa availability in the interim for my PD can pretty much oscillate from being available to not and back and I'll still be waiting!!!
Anyway, it was good to know through a privacy act request to the FOIA division of the FBI that the index check in their central name check database produced no hits for me.....now if their NNCP bretheren would come to the same conclusion SOON, that would be something!!! By the way, I spoke with the FOIA liasion at the FBI and he did say that the NNCP department was in the process of making status inquiry possible again...dunno how long thats gonna take though!
On a different note, have made my second contribution to IV and have inspired an impacted friend to do the same and have exhorted others to make a contribution as well....my reason for aligning with IV, I like to fight the right fight not just because it is my fight right now.
Considering the receipt date of my application is in Nov., 2004...it is going to be a wait and the India EB-2 Visa availability in the interim for my PD can pretty much oscillate from being available to not and back and I'll still be waiting!!!
Anyway, it was good to know through a privacy act request to the FOIA division of the FBI that the index check in their central name check database produced no hits for me.....now if their NNCP bretheren would come to the same conclusion SOON, that would be something!!! By the way, I spoke with the FOIA liasion at the FBI and he did say that the NNCP department was in the process of making status inquiry possible again...dunno how long thats gonna take though!
On a different note, have made my second contribution to IV and have inspired an impacted friend to do the same and have exhorted others to make a contribution as well....my reason for aligning with IV, I like to fight the right fight not just because it is my fight right now.
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cool_desi_gc
03-17 04:15 PM
This clearly shows that EB3 India pipe is clogged becuase of lot of pending cases in 2001/02.Many of them are 245i cases as well.Once the PD crosses 2002, EB3 should go a little smoother.
BTW, mine is Dec 2002
BTW, mine is Dec 2002
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Aah_GC
06-06 12:26 PM
Received our cards today!
Good luck to the rest of you waiting on your approvals!
Best wishes and congratulations to you and your family!
Good luck to the rest of you waiting on your approvals!
Best wishes and congratulations to you and your family!
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03-19 11:02 PM
moved it, status closed now.. ;)
amitjoey
07-05 05:31 PM
Guys, please contribute to IV. I just did today, and believe me, you will feel better for doing so...
This is not just for you and me, but also for those who will come after us. Also, this is not a battle just to sue USCIS/DOS, but a war we need to fight on multiple fronts:
1) First and foremost, we the immigrant community need to join hands and fight as one cohesive group.
2) Sue the government agencies for damages/violation of law/precedents due to the revised visa bulletin
3) Get this matter the attention it deserves in the media
4) Try and get congress to intervene in this matter, and also introduce and pass legislation that will fix the broken employment based immigration system
5) Request corporate sponsorship. Since employers spent money on this fiasco as well, they will have a vested interest in pursuing this as well.
The main thing, however, is funds. IV needs funds to fight for us. Each of us has already spent 100's (many even 1000's) of $ trying to get ready to file our I-485's. So even if 10,000 members contribute just $100 each, it will be $1 mil. I am sure each of us can at least spare that much. It is a small price to pay for liberation from this GC mess for all of us....
With ~15,000 members already, and hopefully some serious $$$$$$ raised, IV will be a force to be reckoned with. No one will be able to treat us with such disdain ever again...
Awesome! you said it!!
This is not just for you and me, but also for those who will come after us. Also, this is not a battle just to sue USCIS/DOS, but a war we need to fight on multiple fronts:
1) First and foremost, we the immigrant community need to join hands and fight as one cohesive group.
2) Sue the government agencies for damages/violation of law/precedents due to the revised visa bulletin
3) Get this matter the attention it deserves in the media
4) Try and get congress to intervene in this matter, and also introduce and pass legislation that will fix the broken employment based immigration system
5) Request corporate sponsorship. Since employers spent money on this fiasco as well, they will have a vested interest in pursuing this as well.
The main thing, however, is funds. IV needs funds to fight for us. Each of us has already spent 100's (many even 1000's) of $ trying to get ready to file our I-485's. So even if 10,000 members contribute just $100 each, it will be $1 mil. I am sure each of us can at least spare that much. It is a small price to pay for liberation from this GC mess for all of us....
With ~15,000 members already, and hopefully some serious $$$$$$ raised, IV will be a force to be reckoned with. No one will be able to treat us with such disdain ever again...
Awesome! you said it!!
webm
03-17 04:56 PM
Spillover is not handled within category: It is handled from top preference to lower preference. Spillover pattern is as under. It is circular and cyclic with broken link from EB3 to EB4.
Just for a reference read "EMPLOYMENT-BASED PREFERENCES" on following bulletin link.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4177.html
So legal pattern for spillover is as under.
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EB1 -> EB2
EB1->EB2 -> EB3. ( This is legally defined but never happens as EB2 has a
larger demand.)
EB4->EB1
Note: Nothing goes from EB3 to any category and practical reality is that
nothing extra comes to EB3 as EB2 is always hungry:)
In April what happened was not "really a Spillover, the loose term what we use on this board" but the use of Section "D. INDIA EMPLOYMENT SECOND PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY" in the bulletin.
USCIS found that EB2-ROW seems to be having less applicants against "total number of visas which can be granted this year" so if it does not use them then will be wasted. So USCIS again checked the database and found that EB2-India seems to be having considerable load so it decided to divert those numbers for EB2-India. USCIS can do that as per mentioned section and for such kind of awards "per country limit" is not applicable and that is perfectly legal.
well said dude!!!
Just for a reference read "EMPLOYMENT-BASED PREFERENCES" on following bulletin link.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4177.html
So legal pattern for spillover is as under.
--------------------------------------
EB1 -> EB2
EB1->EB2 -> EB3. ( This is legally defined but never happens as EB2 has a
larger demand.)
EB4->EB1
Note: Nothing goes from EB3 to any category and practical reality is that
nothing extra comes to EB3 as EB2 is always hungry:)
In April what happened was not "really a Spillover, the loose term what we use on this board" but the use of Section "D. INDIA EMPLOYMENT SECOND PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY" in the bulletin.
USCIS found that EB2-ROW seems to be having less applicants against "total number of visas which can be granted this year" so if it does not use them then will be wasted. So USCIS again checked the database and found that EB2-India seems to be having considerable load so it decided to divert those numbers for EB2-India. USCIS can do that as per mentioned section and for such kind of awards "per country limit" is not applicable and that is perfectly legal.
well said dude!!!
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