atul555
04-24 02:05 PM
The Durbin-Grassley bill would, among other things:
� Prohibit the blatantly discriminatory practice of "H-1B only" ads and prohibit employers from hiring additional H-1B and L-1 guest-workers if more than 50 percent of their employees are H-1B and L-1 visa holders.
I wonder how much research these two amigos did on Monster and dice. Here's the link if these two are reading
http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=300&N=0&Hf=0&NUM_PER_PAGE=30&Ntk=JobSearchRanking&Ntx=mode+matchall&AREA_CODES=&AC_COUNTRY=1525&QUICK=1&ZIPCODE=&RADIUS=64.37376&ZC_COUNTRY=0&COUNTRY=1525&STAT_PROV=0&METRO_AREA=33.78715899%2C-84.39164034&TRAVEL=0&TAXTERM=0&SORTSPEC=0&FRMT=0&DAYSBACK=30&LOCATION_OPTION=2&FREE_TEXT=h1b&WHERE=
Please click on the ads and see if the ads come up with H1B only or they say 'No H1Bs', which I guess is an acceptable form of discrimination for these two.
Last I checked I was hard pressed to find a single job which were open enough for H1B's, let alone exclusively for H1B's, but almost all of the openings explicitly barred H1B visa holders.
� Prohibit the blatantly discriminatory practice of "H-1B only" ads and prohibit employers from hiring additional H-1B and L-1 guest-workers if more than 50 percent of their employees are H-1B and L-1 visa holders.
I wonder how much research these two amigos did on Monster and dice. Here's the link if these two are reading
http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?op=300&N=0&Hf=0&NUM_PER_PAGE=30&Ntk=JobSearchRanking&Ntx=mode+matchall&AREA_CODES=&AC_COUNTRY=1525&QUICK=1&ZIPCODE=&RADIUS=64.37376&ZC_COUNTRY=0&COUNTRY=1525&STAT_PROV=0&METRO_AREA=33.78715899%2C-84.39164034&TRAVEL=0&TAXTERM=0&SORTSPEC=0&FRMT=0&DAYSBACK=30&LOCATION_OPTION=2&FREE_TEXT=h1b&WHERE=
Please click on the ads and see if the ads come up with H1B only or they say 'No H1Bs', which I guess is an acceptable form of discrimination for these two.
Last I checked I was hard pressed to find a single job which were open enough for H1B's, let alone exclusively for H1B's, but almost all of the openings explicitly barred H1B visa holders.
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sweet_jungle
03-27 03:17 AM
One more company that does not hire on EAD is Applied Biosystems
There is a whole lot of good information about citizenship or immigration status discrimination at http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc
From their Employee Brochure:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/pdf/publications/en_wbroc.pdf
From their Employer Brochure:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/pdf/publications/en_guide0507.pdf
From OSC Update newsletter April 2004:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/pdf/osc_update_APR04.pdf
FAQ:
If you are told by an employer (verbally or in writing) that they will consider only citizens or green card holders, call the OSC hotline. They may not give you the job based on some other criteria but they will not discriminate anybody else in the future.
If you find any job posting or ad which states that they will hire only citizens or green card holders, or explicitly declines to hire somebody with EAD, post it here. If you don't wish to, maybe somebody else can make the call.
In most cases it would be pure ignorance on the recruiter's part. A simple phone call from OSC will clear that.
Of course the best course is to avoid bringing up EAD in the first place. But if it comes to that, you can reach out to OSC, even if you don't have anything in writing.
There is a whole lot of good information about citizenship or immigration status discrimination at http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc
From their Employee Brochure:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/pdf/publications/en_wbroc.pdf
From their Employer Brochure:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/pdf/publications/en_guide0507.pdf
From OSC Update newsletter April 2004:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/pdf/osc_update_APR04.pdf
FAQ:
If you are told by an employer (verbally or in writing) that they will consider only citizens or green card holders, call the OSC hotline. They may not give you the job based on some other criteria but they will not discriminate anybody else in the future.
If you find any job posting or ad which states that they will hire only citizens or green card holders, or explicitly declines to hire somebody with EAD, post it here. If you don't wish to, maybe somebody else can make the call.
In most cases it would be pure ignorance on the recruiter's part. A simple phone call from OSC will clear that.
Of course the best course is to avoid bringing up EAD in the first place. But if it comes to that, you can reach out to OSC, even if you don't have anything in writing.
Saralayar
04-21 11:56 PM
Hello every one,
I am starting this thread for all of us not to just think about the GC process. If any one is residing here for 10 years without GC, think about making a law which can lead us to Citizenship. My thoughts on this:
Many of our colleagues who landed with us during the late 90s (1998, 1999) and early 2000, who got their GC without any issues are now Citizens or waiting to become Citizen soon.
What is our status?. Just think. Still we are strugling to get the GC. Even by law change, if we are getting the GC this year (by GOD's Grace), then we need to wait for another 5 years from now (approximately 2014). Many persons like me who have come to this Country in their later career will be very much affected due to this delay (we have lot of other issues like the dependents reaching the age of 21 etc., College, University fees etc.,).
Core team and every one, please consider this and try to lobby for getting the citizenship without further wait if the persons satisfy the folowing conditions:
1. If they are legally here for 10 years (With approved I-140 and waiting for Adjustment of Status without current date).
2. If they have earned full 40 points in Social Security
3. If they have paid the tax continuously for 10 years
4. If they own a house and paying Mortgage (adding weightage to the Economy boost)
and
5. If they do not have any criminal records in these 10 years.
Please again do not just concentrate on the GC issues. Consider this and if any one can come with a letter draft with legal openion, we can send it to all Congress members, State Governers etc.,
Hope the members and the Core team consider this issue. I have one more thread on this, which I started some months back but the response was not that good. If every one of us unite on this and raise this to the Congress, I think the new Government may consider as this is very genuine.
Guys,
I saw a thread in IV for fixing the EB issues, which lot of guys are sending mails to whitehouse.gov. Why don't we send a mail to whitehouse.gov regarding citizenship?. If some one can draft a good mail with the details I provided, all of us can send a mail. If there are lot of mails on the same subject, definitely, it will go to the attention of the President.
I am starting this thread for all of us not to just think about the GC process. If any one is residing here for 10 years without GC, think about making a law which can lead us to Citizenship. My thoughts on this:
Many of our colleagues who landed with us during the late 90s (1998, 1999) and early 2000, who got their GC without any issues are now Citizens or waiting to become Citizen soon.
What is our status?. Just think. Still we are strugling to get the GC. Even by law change, if we are getting the GC this year (by GOD's Grace), then we need to wait for another 5 years from now (approximately 2014). Many persons like me who have come to this Country in their later career will be very much affected due to this delay (we have lot of other issues like the dependents reaching the age of 21 etc., College, University fees etc.,).
Core team and every one, please consider this and try to lobby for getting the citizenship without further wait if the persons satisfy the folowing conditions:
1. If they are legally here for 10 years (With approved I-140 and waiting for Adjustment of Status without current date).
2. If they have earned full 40 points in Social Security
3. If they have paid the tax continuously for 10 years
4. If they own a house and paying Mortgage (adding weightage to the Economy boost)
and
5. If they do not have any criminal records in these 10 years.
Please again do not just concentrate on the GC issues. Consider this and if any one can come with a letter draft with legal openion, we can send it to all Congress members, State Governers etc.,
Hope the members and the Core team consider this issue. I have one more thread on this, which I started some months back but the response was not that good. If every one of us unite on this and raise this to the Congress, I think the new Government may consider as this is very genuine.
Guys,
I saw a thread in IV for fixing the EB issues, which lot of guys are sending mails to whitehouse.gov. Why don't we send a mail to whitehouse.gov regarding citizenship?. If some one can draft a good mail with the details I provided, all of us can send a mail. If there are lot of mails on the same subject, definitely, it will go to the attention of the President.
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milind70
05-06 01:12 PM
while we are on the topic, how long does it take to get a I-140 approval notice from TSC
approval notice can take anywhere from 7 to 30 days
approval notice can take anywhere from 7 to 30 days
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baburob2
01-11 01:00 PM
that's is just a summary, it is missing out other parts. the spouses, chidren etc are exempted from the quota and that would give a massive boost too .
look at numbersusa for more on it.
look at numbersusa for more on it.
nojoke
11-25 04:51 PM
Btw, who told you that guys like punjabi and others overbid or bought a house that they cannot afford? They could and still can afford these houses i.e. the monthly mortgage payments; the only thing they cannot do in the current market is to sell it (even at the price at which they bough i.e. break even) and that is why they are stuck with it if/when they decide to move to another city/job - so no point blaming these guys. If you want to blame somebody, blame the banks who appraised the same house at 500k 2 years back which they are appraising at 400k today, there in lies the problem.
Let me try to understand your logic. You don't have money and went to bank and requested that they help you out with a loan. They give you loan based on what you bid your house and it is all their fault. If only banks had refused the loan, you wouldn't have bought the house. Is this your logic? Do you ever think for yourself?:confused: I am not going to say that banks were not at fault. But to act like nothing is punjabi's fault is ridiculous.
BTW if you think he can afford it now wait for another year. The full impact of these mistakes will be known by then. We will be deep into a depression. We will have on top of it ALT-A resets and his house will lose more than 20K for sure. My opinion would be to sell it now and take the hit or wait and lose more. The housing will not rebound to the 2007 peek for a decade.
Let me try to understand your logic. You don't have money and went to bank and requested that they help you out with a loan. They give you loan based on what you bid your house and it is all their fault. If only banks had refused the loan, you wouldn't have bought the house. Is this your logic? Do you ever think for yourself?:confused: I am not going to say that banks were not at fault. But to act like nothing is punjabi's fault is ridiculous.
BTW if you think he can afford it now wait for another year. The full impact of these mistakes will be known by then. We will be deep into a depression. We will have on top of it ALT-A resets and his house will lose more than 20K for sure. My opinion would be to sell it now and take the hit or wait and lose more. The housing will not rebound to the 2007 peek for a decade.
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MCQ
11-12 12:18 PM
For more information, we went to visit our home country and re-entered from JFK with no issue twice after 2004. We got H4 tranfered, EAD advanced Payrole too with no issue al all. Looks like "nunc pro tunc" is the solution according to Murthy. Anybody has experience with "nunc pro tunc" please post your experience. http://www.murthy.com/news/n_nunpro.html
gc4me - I have experience using "nunc pro tunc" - and it saved my I-485 (AC21).
I had just come back from vacation (09/01) and the Officer at the POE stamped my I-94 with the date on my visa (11/01), instead of the date of my then H1-B extension I-797 approval notice (03/03) which I had with me.
I explained to her she had stamped the wrong date, she said that was all I was allowed. I tought this wrong so mentioned it my attorney when I got home. My attorney confirmed that the POE Officer was wrong - so drafted a letter for me to take to my local INS Office to get the card corrected - along with one of her paralegal assistants. The Officer at the INS office took one look at the letter and supporting documents and told me I was ok as the I-797 had me covered to 2003. The paralegal then typed up a eport of the meeting with the INS, saying everything was ok, and we thought that was the end of the matter.
How wrong we were.
I next left the US to go on vacation in November 2002. By this time I had renewed my visa through the now non-existant Department of State mail in program, got my Labour Certificate, my I-140 and had filed my I-485. The issue of my erroneously stamped I-94 was a distant memory and I had no trouble getting back into the US with the new Visa, and my I-797.
The following Februaury my company ran into some problems and I was let go. Luckily I had passed the magic 180 days so was able to invoke AC21 and went to find a new job, which I did. My new employers were quite happy to take over the GC sponsorship as all they had to do was send a letter to the now USCIS and work with their lawyers.
That's where the trouble started. USCIS got the letter, put it on my file and started their review of my I-485.
They then sent me an RFE asking me to prove I had been here legally between the expiration of my old I-94 in 11/01 and when I submitted the I-485 in July 2002. (I-485 for AOS can only be submitted if you are legally in the US at time of submittal). I was devastated as it looked as though they were going to deny my I-485 due to an INS mistake.
As it was more than 365 days from when my I-94 "Expired" till I left on my next trip, I was looking at deportation and a 10 year ban from the United States.
Luckily it is a good thing I am a pack rat and keep every bit of correspondance between me and my lawyers. I was able to go to my new lawyers with the info and statements from my old lawyers about what had happened back in 2001 with the INS and my I-94 and after getting Sworn Affadavits (on pain of Perjury) from my old lawyer, paralegal and myself, we went to the local USCIS office and made an appointment with the Director and asked for a "Nunc pro Tunc" decision on the I-94 as it was clearly an INS mistake and that we had acted in Good Faith throughout in trusting the INS official.
We got the "Nunc pro Tunc" and responded to the RFE. Six weeks after that - I got the I-485 Approval notice and my passport stamped the week after.
The things for anyone to take away from my experience are.
1. When you realize a mistake has been made - act on it immediately - like I did as soon as I left the airport on September 2001
2. Document everything - to prove that you acted in Good Faith throughout the process.
Every conversation you have with someone relating to your case - your employer, your lawyer, the USCIS - get the main points in writing - email is graet for this - fire off an email - get confirmation (ok - not so helpful when talking to USCIS)
3. Keep EVERYTHING. take photocopies of I-94's, I-797's - everything. Every letter, every email. You never know when you'll need them.
4. Yes, the Government really does know where everything is in your file and they will catch even the smallest mistake.
Hope that helps you gc4me. If you can prove you acted in Good Faith throughout the whole process from finding the mistake and trying to correct it - your chances of getting the "nunc pro tunc" go up.
GOOD LUCK
gc4me - I have experience using "nunc pro tunc" - and it saved my I-485 (AC21).
I had just come back from vacation (09/01) and the Officer at the POE stamped my I-94 with the date on my visa (11/01), instead of the date of my then H1-B extension I-797 approval notice (03/03) which I had with me.
I explained to her she had stamped the wrong date, she said that was all I was allowed. I tought this wrong so mentioned it my attorney when I got home. My attorney confirmed that the POE Officer was wrong - so drafted a letter for me to take to my local INS Office to get the card corrected - along with one of her paralegal assistants. The Officer at the INS office took one look at the letter and supporting documents and told me I was ok as the I-797 had me covered to 2003. The paralegal then typed up a eport of the meeting with the INS, saying everything was ok, and we thought that was the end of the matter.
How wrong we were.
I next left the US to go on vacation in November 2002. By this time I had renewed my visa through the now non-existant Department of State mail in program, got my Labour Certificate, my I-140 and had filed my I-485. The issue of my erroneously stamped I-94 was a distant memory and I had no trouble getting back into the US with the new Visa, and my I-797.
The following Februaury my company ran into some problems and I was let go. Luckily I had passed the magic 180 days so was able to invoke AC21 and went to find a new job, which I did. My new employers were quite happy to take over the GC sponsorship as all they had to do was send a letter to the now USCIS and work with their lawyers.
That's where the trouble started. USCIS got the letter, put it on my file and started their review of my I-485.
They then sent me an RFE asking me to prove I had been here legally between the expiration of my old I-94 in 11/01 and when I submitted the I-485 in July 2002. (I-485 for AOS can only be submitted if you are legally in the US at time of submittal). I was devastated as it looked as though they were going to deny my I-485 due to an INS mistake.
As it was more than 365 days from when my I-94 "Expired" till I left on my next trip, I was looking at deportation and a 10 year ban from the United States.
Luckily it is a good thing I am a pack rat and keep every bit of correspondance between me and my lawyers. I was able to go to my new lawyers with the info and statements from my old lawyers about what had happened back in 2001 with the INS and my I-94 and after getting Sworn Affadavits (on pain of Perjury) from my old lawyer, paralegal and myself, we went to the local USCIS office and made an appointment with the Director and asked for a "Nunc pro Tunc" decision on the I-94 as it was clearly an INS mistake and that we had acted in Good Faith throughout in trusting the INS official.
We got the "Nunc pro Tunc" and responded to the RFE. Six weeks after that - I got the I-485 Approval notice and my passport stamped the week after.
The things for anyone to take away from my experience are.
1. When you realize a mistake has been made - act on it immediately - like I did as soon as I left the airport on September 2001
2. Document everything - to prove that you acted in Good Faith throughout the process.
Every conversation you have with someone relating to your case - your employer, your lawyer, the USCIS - get the main points in writing - email is graet for this - fire off an email - get confirmation (ok - not so helpful when talking to USCIS)
3. Keep EVERYTHING. take photocopies of I-94's, I-797's - everything. Every letter, every email. You never know when you'll need them.
4. Yes, the Government really does know where everything is in your file and they will catch even the smallest mistake.
Hope that helps you gc4me. If you can prove you acted in Good Faith throughout the whole process from finding the mistake and trying to correct it - your chances of getting the "nunc pro tunc" go up.
GOOD LUCK
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sc3
08-20 11:02 PM
I got 3 negs.. not that I care about the reputation system here... but it shows people are unwilling to confront me openly, and choose to hide even though this forum is already anonymous.
One neg says:
"old system - like we're going to let that happen. interfile if you can."
Why should I interfile? I am putting my energies into getting USCIS to follow the rules. It is the right thing to do, just because I am willing to wait for my turn, doesn't mean I will cede my position in the queue.
Also, I am trying to take recourse from the written laws, there is nothing that anyone can do (barring USCIS' own impediment to follow the law) to not "let that happen".
One neg says:
"old system - like we're going to let that happen. interfile if you can."
Why should I interfile? I am putting my energies into getting USCIS to follow the rules. It is the right thing to do, just because I am willing to wait for my turn, doesn't mean I will cede my position in the queue.
Also, I am trying to take recourse from the written laws, there is nothing that anyone can do (barring USCIS' own impediment to follow the law) to not "let that happen".
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mrsr
06-27 04:00 PM
yes enter till 2010 , if u can see on the left of yr 797 the i94 number might be same as yr white card ( provided u have not gone out of country ) .... that will mean that yr white card validity have been increased till 2010
Can somebody answer this....
Can somebody answer this....
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CADude
10-10 05:54 PM
I send my Employment based I-485/I-765/I-131 application on June 29th 2007 and received at NSC on July 2nd 2007 (USPS Express mail tracking no. XXXX). It�s more than 100 days and I didn�t even received the Receipt Number for all the applications.
I have following question for CIS Ombudsman�s office:
1) Per US Law, I have to get the EAD in 90 days of filling of my application? How I can get the EAD in 90 days where I didn�t even get the Receipt Number after 100 days?
2) Why �First In First Out (FIFO)� process is not followed by USCIS for receipting? It�s unfair to applicant like me when application filed on August 17th 2007 enjoying the EAD card and able to work.
3) What action you can will take to force USCIS follow their own operational manual guidelines and follow FIFO in future?
I have following question for CIS Ombudsman�s office:
1) Per US Law, I have to get the EAD in 90 days of filling of my application? How I can get the EAD in 90 days where I didn�t even get the Receipt Number after 100 days?
2) Why �First In First Out (FIFO)� process is not followed by USCIS for receipting? It�s unfair to applicant like me when application filed on August 17th 2007 enjoying the EAD card and able to work.
3) What action you can will take to force USCIS follow their own operational manual guidelines and follow FIFO in future?
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babu123
06-29 05:38 PM
It is going to be true. otherwise mathew wont shut down his work and post that AILF is going file law suit.
I am suspecting that they made current because of lobby made by some big heads inorder to get support to pass the immigration bill.
Since the immigration bill failed, DOS is going back to retrogression.
I am suspecting that they made current because of lobby made by some big heads inorder to get support to pass the immigration bill.
Since the immigration bill failed, DOS is going back to retrogression.
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drirshad
06-29 08:06 PM
Damn this sucking life man, no social life, no career life, no nothing life. Even animals must be living a better and meaningful life. It sucks big time, did it ever happen in history that uscis revised a visa bulletin on the day it is supposed to go into effect ....
We must fill their mailbox guys, let tham know this cannot be accepted.
uscis.webmaster@dhs.gov
National Customer Service Center (NCSC) at 1-800-375-5283 (TTY 1-800-767-1833)
We must fill their mailbox guys, let tham know this cannot be accepted.
uscis.webmaster@dhs.gov
National Customer Service Center (NCSC) at 1-800-375-5283 (TTY 1-800-767-1833)
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jsb
09-17 04:29 PM
Got all receipts a few mins ago.
Jul 2nd
Barrett 10:25am
NSC
I140 approved at NSC over a year ago.
NSC was supposed to have finished with July 2 long time ago. We thought it was late only when NSC to TSC transfer is involved.
Jul 2nd
Barrett 10:25am
NSC
I140 approved at NSC over a year ago.
NSC was supposed to have finished with July 2 long time ago. We thought it was late only when NSC to TSC transfer is involved.
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pakrish
08-17 11:01 AM
Hi pakrish, similar situation here. My wife's gc has the gender mentioned incorrectly. From what I've researched, we need to file for I-90 and choose option D - correction in green card. There are no fees required as it's a USCIS mistake but the original card needs to be sent with the form.
Thanks ..So do you have any idea about how long USCIS takes in this situation to complete the name change?
Thanks ..So do you have any idea about how long USCIS takes in this situation to complete the name change?
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miapplicant
09-24 08:41 AM
I just called USCIS and they asked me to wait for 90 days. Our application was recd on July 23rd by B.GERKENSMEYER at NSC. She said that NSC has is processing Dec 21, 2006applications now. Couldn't give me an answer when I told her that USCIS website is showing dates of Aug 9th, 2007 as of today.
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vvicky72
02-26 09:53 PM
I appeared for an interview on Feb 11 (H1b renewal and H4b renewal case).
Was asked to wait a week for an email and was given the yellow form.
Its been 16 days and no reply yet.
Does anyone know how long the wait will be?
How can I follow this up with the Mumbai consulate?
Is there a way I can cancel my application and go back on AP?
Was asked to wait a week for an email and was given the yellow form.
Its been 16 days and no reply yet.
Does anyone know how long the wait will be?
How can I follow this up with the Mumbai consulate?
Is there a way I can cancel my application and go back on AP?
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05-22 12:34 PM
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rcr_bulk
08-25 03:17 PM
Ok...the way I see this is 5000min/month at $25 (not adding taxes) is 5 cents a minutes...that is more than what I pay for my calling cards....bottom line....if your monthly calling bill is less than $ 25 there is no reason why you should get Vonage.
I think your calculation is wrong. 5000mins at $25 is less than a cent for min. Also you should include local phone which we pay minimum $17/month (I think teleblend is cheap I found is 15.99 + tax = 17 per month)
I think your calculation is wrong. 5000mins at $25 is less than a cent for min. Also you should include local phone which we pay minimum $17/month (I think teleblend is cheap I found is 15.99 + tax = 17 per month)
snathan
04-24 06:28 PM
This is a good bill. The 50% rule will impact Indian bodyshoppers and Top Indian outsourcing companies. But genuine companies like Microsoft,Google, Oracle and other US companies will not be impacted that much as they sincerely search whether US talent is available. But will it pass? In 2007 it did not move as they planned to consider for CIR. This time also same argument may come. But some genuine Indian consulting companies also will be impacted. But system will adjust quickly even if this bill passes.
May I ask your immigration status. I believe you already got your GC and roaming around here just beat shit out of others. Each and every of your post is convincing me in that direction only. You would be happy to see the H1 guys thrown out from here. So it will increase your demand and you can make more money. What kind of person you are. is there any difference between you and anti-immigrant. Or are you that coming with Indian name to make fool out of us.
If you dont believe me, you read all your posts again. You are always talking about banning desi consultant. You are more than welcome for that. But you did you even thought about a second for guys who are genuine and unfortunate to work for them.
People are already stressed out. If you got your GC please go-away and enjoy your freedom.
May I ask your immigration status. I believe you already got your GC and roaming around here just beat shit out of others. Each and every of your post is convincing me in that direction only. You would be happy to see the H1 guys thrown out from here. So it will increase your demand and you can make more money. What kind of person you are. is there any difference between you and anti-immigrant. Or are you that coming with Indian name to make fool out of us.
If you dont believe me, you read all your posts again. You are always talking about banning desi consultant. You are more than welcome for that. But you did you even thought about a second for guys who are genuine and unfortunate to work for them.
People are already stressed out. If you got your GC please go-away and enjoy your freedom.
IVFOREVER
12-01 07:43 PM
HI addsf345,
it seems exceeded the limit of 5000 first time.
Thanks
Response FROM Vonage:
Dear XXXXXX XXXXX,
As per our recent emails, thank you for agreeing to decrease your usage. Please note that your account will continue to be monitored for usage for 7 days and that you can track your minutes (combined domestic & international) from your Online Account under the Monthly Usage Summary in the Billing section. Should we see that the usage continues to be inconsistent with normal use, we would then have to take action on the account. For more information, please refer to our Terms of Service section 5.4. 5.4 Inconsistent with Normal Use. If you use the service or the device in a way that is inconsistent with the normal use for your service or plan, you will be required, at Vonage's sole discretion, to pay the rates for the service or plan that would apply to the way you used the service or device, or terminate the plan. For example, if you subscribe to one of our residential service plans, and your usage is inconsistent with normal residential use, you may thereafter be required to pay our applicable, higher rates for commercial service for all periods in which your use of our service or the device was inconsistent with normal residential use. Unlimited voice services are provided primarily for continuous live dialog between two individuals. Lack of continuous dialog activity, unusual call patterns, excessive numbers and/or consistent excessive usage (i.e., More than 5,000 minutes per line per month for unlimited residential calling and/or more than 10,000 minutes per line per month for unlimited small business calling), will be considered indicators that use may be inconsistent with normal use, or that impermissible use may be occurring and may trigger an account review by us. The creation or use of related multiple accounts or excessive residential lines to circumvent these levels shall also be considered indicators that use of the service may be inconsistent with normal use for the subscribed monthly plan(s) and may trigger an account review by Vonage. Failure to contact Vonage in response to its notifications and/or failure to promptly correct usage activity to conform to normal use will result, in Vonage's sole discretion, in immediate mandatory transfer to another appropriate plan, suspension or termination of service. You acknowledge that if your service is terminated under this provision, you are subject to all applicable disconnection and device or other rebate recovery charges. Vonage's right to terminate your account under Section 6.5(b) (with or no reason) is not limited by this provision. For a non-exhaustive list of example!s of uses of our service inconsistent with normal residential use, see below.bbb If you have any questions,
please reply to this email or contact me at 1-(866)-254-3704.
Sincerely,
XXXXXXX
Vonage Usage DepartmentRevenue Operations
1-(866)-254-3704
it seems exceeded the limit of 5000 first time.
Thanks
Response FROM Vonage:
Dear XXXXXX XXXXX,
As per our recent emails, thank you for agreeing to decrease your usage. Please note that your account will continue to be monitored for usage for 7 days and that you can track your minutes (combined domestic & international) from your Online Account under the Monthly Usage Summary in the Billing section. Should we see that the usage continues to be inconsistent with normal use, we would then have to take action on the account. For more information, please refer to our Terms of Service section 5.4. 5.4 Inconsistent with Normal Use. If you use the service or the device in a way that is inconsistent with the normal use for your service or plan, you will be required, at Vonage's sole discretion, to pay the rates for the service or plan that would apply to the way you used the service or device, or terminate the plan. For example, if you subscribe to one of our residential service plans, and your usage is inconsistent with normal residential use, you may thereafter be required to pay our applicable, higher rates for commercial service for all periods in which your use of our service or the device was inconsistent with normal residential use. Unlimited voice services are provided primarily for continuous live dialog between two individuals. Lack of continuous dialog activity, unusual call patterns, excessive numbers and/or consistent excessive usage (i.e., More than 5,000 minutes per line per month for unlimited residential calling and/or more than 10,000 minutes per line per month for unlimited small business calling), will be considered indicators that use may be inconsistent with normal use, or that impermissible use may be occurring and may trigger an account review by us. The creation or use of related multiple accounts or excessive residential lines to circumvent these levels shall also be considered indicators that use of the service may be inconsistent with normal use for the subscribed monthly plan(s) and may trigger an account review by Vonage. Failure to contact Vonage in response to its notifications and/or failure to promptly correct usage activity to conform to normal use will result, in Vonage's sole discretion, in immediate mandatory transfer to another appropriate plan, suspension or termination of service. You acknowledge that if your service is terminated under this provision, you are subject to all applicable disconnection and device or other rebate recovery charges. Vonage's right to terminate your account under Section 6.5(b) (with or no reason) is not limited by this provision. For a non-exhaustive list of example!s of uses of our service inconsistent with normal residential use, see below.bbb If you have any questions,
please reply to this email or contact me at 1-(866)-254-3704.
Sincerely,
XXXXXXX
Vonage Usage DepartmentRevenue Operations
1-(866)-254-3704
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